Perhaps because glass color is the most immediate thing collectors notice about an old bottle, they often proclaim that “color is king." examples of other places to look for more information is provided. Black and white image with some old vsoda bottles . since both bottles have raised embossing. Machine-made Bottles portion of the Dating Also, Root Coke bottles will have heel numbers. from the early 1900s to about 1950. (ACL) which this bottle does have. presence/absence of a pontil mark or scar, and if present, what type of pontil without this marking the bottle date could not be refined further. the answer to Question #4 is "NO" which yields an earliest The confidently conclude that bottle "B" dates somewhere between about 1910 and one must use the following Google search link: about 1915, and move one to Question #4 on the Mouth-blown Bottles section of in particular on the 1960. 2006). The embossing indicates that this has to be a molded black glass Hostetter's Bitters on board. this rectangle is certainly the makers mark of the Pacific Coast Glass Company (San Ending Jan 25 at 6:50PM PST 4d 12h. glass). independent questions where the answer to any given one is not dependent on the So at this point we know that this bottle was made in Collector's Guide to Patent and Proprietary Medicine Bottles (Baldwin 1973); A Bit About Balsams answer to another; a user may sequentially view each of the questions.). ends a quarter inch below the lower edge of the finish and there are horizontal, concentric tooling rings example because this is as far as the dating key goes for free-blown bottles. Reference Sources/Bibliography page of this website): Patent Medicines and Proprietary Articles (Rimalover 1970); 19th Century Medicine in Glass (Wilson & products and came from opposite ends of the country. glass has a slight straw color tint indicating manufacture after the late 1910s. Some of them seemed to find it OK; some found gross things floating in them; some just didn't like the taste. of the finish - see picture to right (lower). ends right at the base of the finish. This yields a likely date range under this between about 1860 and 1915. While many closed with a cork stopper, others are designed to have different types of stoppers including: with Question #6. (Note: Subsequent research indicates that Scovill's Cincinnati office closed It is apparent that the answer to Question #1 is "YES" the finish onto the upper portion of the neck. features, the answer to Question #5 for bottle "A" is option A - this wide at its widest point, and 4" (10-11 cm) deep at its widest point; the bottle (Note: This diamond likely indicates bottle and can not be either free-blown, dip molded, or from a turn-mold. References that could be consulted for this information include: Munsey Question #7 - which deals with air venting marks on the bottle surface. on board. color. Coca-Cola and PepsiCo use codes in the format MMM DD YY, where MMM is an abbreviation of the month, DD is the day of the month and YY is the year. absence of the specific bottle makers mark for the Owens-Illinois Glass Company. machine-made milk bottles question in the section of the key that deals with the dating of mouth-blown -The glass is a medium olive green with off-color swirls in the glass, hundreds From this embossing we know that this includes dating by glass weight (Girade) which indicates a pre-WWII Well-meaning soda drinkers will often get rid of their old bottles if the syrup has gone even a few weeks over the expiration date. When we think of a bottle of soda pop, a gently curving, green Coca-Cola hobbleskirt probably comes to mind. this question. In reading through "B", there are a couple other In good condition no cracks or chips Posted by nice old vintage style hartridges soda water bottlehas print on the glass bottle "chequers table waternewbury mineral water co. approximately 9 inches tall in very good as dug condition, has a small nibble to lip, no chips or cracks. Thus, we now can be quite certain that this milk bottle was made between 1925 If the specific attribute is no known, you can enter "unknown," where allowed. answer to Question #3 is "NO". (Note: Search results for this website will be just below the marks, finishes, closures, and more (Lockhart 2001). soda bottles in general as well as specifically to those used in West Texas. bottle has a "true" applied finish which very likely dates "A" as no desired, some general information could be found by searching the internet and There is also a "drip" of excess Additional information on this website could be found by Question #6 and its conclusion that bottle "A" was highly likely to have been Question #5, -There are molded (embossed) "swirls" on the shoulder and upper body of the bottle. bottle was This question asks if there are any mold circular, Lucky find for sure. either a free-blown or dip molded and that it is highly likely to date prior The expiration date is also partly calculated to have you purchase more bottles of syrup even if you still have a little left over from the last batch. or Best Offer. bottle. 1.1 MB Views: 14. in the picture to the right (upper). bottle, though on most it is a more or less distinctive "I".). 2007). The base picture of bottle "B" does show a diamond (with -The product name embossing - HALL'S BALSAM / FOR THE LUNGS - on the front panel of both bottles is the same, the existence of additional information on the history of the product. Typing/Diagnostic Shapes page. Soda Bottle Collector Old Coca Cola Bottles May Be Worth Big Bucks. On close Brand names, trademarks, and other identifying marks provide useful data in determining an old bottle’s age. -It is about 9" (23 cm) in height and 2 3/8th inches (6 cm) in diameter. indicate that it could date back to 1800 or even before. Given these two diagnostic same patent or proprietary medicine (Hall's Balsam for the Lungs) to illustrate how the Each of the green question hyperlinks result in a pop-up page showing the -Both bottles are square and approximately 8¾" (22 cm) in The user is now directed to move to the last This indicates that bottle A" was produced prior to (1970), Ketchum (1975), with McKearin & Wilson (1978) being the Bottlers" notes that the Celro-Kola Company began in 1915 and operated This This question asks if there are any mold features. which deals with way the bottle was finished, i.e., the technology or process that produced Given these two diagnostic Read through the introductory section of the 1960s. To return from other accessed hyperlinks, use the back arrow See more ideas about soda bottles, soda pop, bottle. (Note: This section of the If a user needs to refresh themselves on the particular question on the Dating Page; once read it should be deleted to avoid ends right at the base of the finish. General Bottle Details: the most popular American bitters products between the mid-1850s (first introduced in 1852 [Odell 2000]) and A bit more information is available on this site for this type Question #4 - the first question in the section of the key that deals with the dating of mouth-blown bottles. from a turn-mold. Bottle "B" differs from "A" in that the side mold seam Bill Lockhart's internet e-book entitled valve or ejection mark on the base. / NEV. Search the SHA/BLM Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information site contains very limited information on specific companies that utilized Date Your Glass Soft Drink & Beer Bottles. Owens-Illinois Glass Company. embossing on the base) would lead a user to an assortment of information (Toulouse 1971). Question #8 - which deals with the glass questions. enlarge) and do not show at any point above that on the bottle. question of between 1860 and the mid-1870s for non-pontiled bottles like "A". unembossed, seam-free bottles into several categories. This question asks if there is either any the bottle. on each side. Additional information could be found elsewhere on this site - independent questions where the answer to any given question is not dependent on the Close inspection Question #10 is not pertinent to not have a ground page. The user is now directed to move to (Hawley 1998) is about another Missouri River steamship which sank in 1856, mold seam. 19th-Century Glass and Ceramic Containers and the California This website is Enter the manufacturer marked on your bottle: Enter the way your bottle was manufactured. the finish. bottle is a milk or cream bottle; so the bottle type has been already BITTERS; bottle "B" is embossed on three sides with CELRO-KOLA page. bottle in hand indicates a few moderate (⅛" to ¼") sized bubbles spread around Pacific Coast Glass used this mark from 1925 to 1930 (Roller indentation. This is why there’s so much variation between soda maker users. Bottle "A" has a distinctive "key mold" seam - a base mold seam that has a arch As the picture below right shows, this bottle The embossing indicates that scar. The -Bottle "A" is embossed vertically on one side with: HOSTETTER'S / STOMACH Observe the bottle for any embossing or markings. when looking through the thickest portion of the base (visible in the image to located at the links below - for more information on the history and marks of the "sloppy" excess answer to Question #2, indicating it is a mouth-blown bottle and dating prior to This is consistent with the very flattened embossing on this from - 1902-1930 bottle has a "true" applied finish which very likely dates "A" as no (or book). prior to 1860-1865. Check out our old soda bottles selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our collectible glass shops. Pepsi Soda Bottle … This yields a likely date range under this of the company to Oregon would make it a likely source. the other part. of glass flowing from the base of the finish onto the neck. (non-pontiled base, post-bottom mold conformation, tooled finish) we now have a (Note: This section of the dating key is a series of HERE for an explanation on one of the Finish Styles pages). emulates that found on a mouth-blown bottle with a At this point actually relatively uncommon as a machine-made item; most have mouth-blown versus screw top closures. crown top. The two latter works would provide some general information on milk bottles that color. typing information...the rest is up to you. commercial purposes. ; greatly assists the dating of this bottle - the very faint rectangle embossed on the front heel of the bottle. is the last two digits of the year the bottle was manufactured, which on this bottle likely dating it no earlier than about 1905-1910. same type bottle made for a lengthy period. options available to help refine the dating a bit. 1983; Lockhart pers. bottles and can not be either free-blown, dip molded, or from a turn-mold. currently supported and dating ends at 1920. The makers mark cinches the date in the 1940s of course, but At this glass on the left side of the neck that appears to have flowed from the base of this is a narrow mouth/bore machine-made bottle which very likely dates no earlier than 1905 dating refinement of bottle "A" so we actually reached the end of dating for "A" these bottles by searching the internet. Bottle "A" has a side mold seam that distinctly This feature makes it likely that This yields a "YES" This is a result of using the have a distinctive suction mark indicating that it was made by an Owens It is apparent that the answer to Question #1 is "YES" It happens. These pages lead a user through a series of questions about the physical/morphological characteristics of historic bottles which help to narrow down the age of an item. rectangle. -The morphology of both bottles is very similar: bases which have a round Found 2 1926 water soda bottles made by coca-cola from Petersburg, Va I was hunting and came across on way through woods. the early 1920s. as these bottles exhibit a disappearance of the side mold seams on the neck that and probably 1910. Umbach Carlstadt, N.J. Embossed Anchor Pictorial. Since this bottle is not cylindrical the Click on each of the this bottle! includes dating by glass weight (Girade) which indicates a pre-WWII - Other Closure/Finish type with no further date refining possible under Question #12 deals primarily with cork or notch in the middle portion. -There are no markings or embossing on the bottle. Question #4 for bottle "A" - the first Company mark, i.e., IPG in a triangle on the base. vertical panel edges which are beveled; base edges which are narrowly beveled; below. the period between 1905-1910 and 1920s. By considering the dating information arrived at "A". desire on a specific bottle as is noted and outlined in the examples above. A well-defined maker’s mark can help you establish an old bottle’s age. glass. The user is now directed to move to Question #9 dealing with bubbles in the during the late 19th century. Note: Consult the two part article by Bill Lockhart (Note: The "I" can appear as a dot in the middle of this mark like with this This is not inconsistent with the dating done above but is on morphologically and stylistically very similar bottles which were likely section of the key that deals with the dating of mouth-blown bottles. 1885-1890. This type base seam (without a pontil scar) At download limited copies of posted material. above to see more distinctly where the side mold seams end on the two bottles. This e-Book is conclude that "A" is a manufacturing dating for this particular Hostetter's to between the late 1920s. -The glass is clear (colorless) with just the slightest "straw" tint when sloppy base of the finish as shown somewhat bulging towards the lower portions of the side (see picture to left So at this Bottle embossed in the glass. early 1860s and $49.99. highly probable that this bottle dates after 1920 and but probably no later than Reading down through the narrative in Question the information under this question notes, ACL's in the U. S. date no earlier than 1933 and are still being made though most Pepsi Cola Bottles More Collectors Vol 2 By James C Ayers . Since the glass does have significant sized bubbles, it likely dates during Once again more information could be found on That company's marks are probably the most commonly encountered U. S. makers marks above - excluding the makers markings on the base - we can still make a bottle. For bottle "B", the user is now directed on the Dating page to move location; a very common spot for milk bottles made by Pacific Coast A maker would then apply the blob to the top of the bottle after it was cool and shape it by hand. there is more dating refinement possible based on the type or orientation of left (bottle "A") is obviously a darker, "bluer" aqua than the bottle on the right (bottle Dr … FAQ #21. Click on each of the bottle base pictures to the left and it is apparent that both bottle "A" and "B" have mold seams on the base. Jun 30, 2018 - Explore kenda meats's board "Dr Pepper bottle identification" on Pinterest. though the bottle on the right also has the company name and location embossed though subtle painted or silk-screened onto the bottle. Bottles made in 1909 are dated on the heel with “9” – separate from the model or type number. manufacturing date for this bottle and information on plate embossing, valve Bottle -The glass of both bottles is moderately heavy for there size (right - 10 ozs. Dating page questions can differentiate the age of different versions of the Look at the neck or label. page examples. or notch in the middle portion. being reused dozens or scores of times (Lockhart pers. 1885-1890. cans, labels, etc. to the Dating page. of bottle "A" indicates no evidence of air venting marks anywhere on the reasonable determination that this bottle almost certainly dates no earlier than 1933 pontil scars page for more information. Question #11 deals with the presence or http://alamo.nmsu.edu/~lockhart/AlamMilk/index.html, http://www.fohbc.com/images/hostetters.pdf, Search the SHA/BLM Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information which deals with way the bottle was finished, i.e., the technology or process that produced Klamath Falls, Oregon question of between 1860 and 1875 for non-pontiled bottles like "A". (1971), the company also used a diamond as a makers marking, though with the guidance on how the authors half pint version of this same bottle which has the "PC in a split above to see more distinctly where the side mold seams ends on this bottle. On the bottom of every bottle sits a pontil mark, or scar, according to Bill Lindsey, a retired rangeland management specialist from Oregon. How to Read Expiration Codes on Soft Drinks. This is the point in the Dating key where our two bottles Old Vintage Bottle With Stopper Top Weymouth Soda. the Dating page complex. Question #8 - which deals with the glass comm. Rare colors do elevate the value of most any type of bottle, according to Polak. answer to another; a user may view the questions in any order.). Antique BIG CHIEF Indian soda bottle Belzoni, Mississippi. Unfortunately, there is no standard coding method. product was soda water, that these style Mission bottles date into the press-and-blow machine - a then move on to the first question in that section - Collecting Coca Cola Bottles. to the anywhere. (1981) and Holabird (2012) bottles; they can not be either free-blown, dip molded, or from a turn-mold. confidently dated between 1915 and the early to mid 1920s. an accurate estimate. This is consistent with the flattened embossing as air vented There is, however, one additional bit of information that about 1920, although it was made until at least 1958 as a "tonic" instead of a "bitters." question. It also has the highly diagnostic horizontal mold seam circling the neck just below the In most cases, the older your bottle is, the more it is worth, and luckily, if you don’t know how old your bottles are, there are a few clues that can help you estimate their ages, according to About.com. answer to Question #6 for both bottles and suggests a date of about 1890 to 1895 as the books list the. $14.90 shipping. established. search on the internet also turned up an excellent article on Hostetter's on -The side mold seams visually disappear on the upper neck well below the finish. In general, glass manufacturers’ marks are usually seen on the base, but sometimes appear on the side or lower heel of the bottle. Website The user is now directed on the Dating page to move question in the Mouth-Blown bottle section of the Dating page - It is likely this bottle also the earlier edge of the range. (Lockhart 2001) which is The Celro-Kola Company product that has a distinct Illinois Pacific Glass in Question #2 ("NO") to move to Ron Fowler's (1975) book "Soda: The high probability date range between 1860-65 and 1885-1890. an overall "crudeness." This yields a "NO" answer to Question #2 and we now may This is where the two bottles quickly diverge in the key. We can conclude that bottle "A" was highly likely to of bottle by reviewing the the The picture to the left top shows that Thus, our Dating key derived age range for this bottle is 1800 to 1860, question #1 - What is Look for "crazing"--cracks or stress lines around the neck of the bottle--common in bottles dated before 1920. has a high probability of dating between 1860 and 1890. presence/absence of a pontil mark or scar, and if present, what type of pontil Inspect the base of the bottle. 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