Rebels Ahsoka via starwars.com. Rise of Skywalker Cast Believes It's Time for a Break From Star Wars, The Rise Of Skywalker Makes It Clear Star Wars NEEDS Rian Johnson. 9 9. Battle. After all, consider this: after being enraged, Vader not only survives Ahsoka without taking another hit, but he also made it out of a massive explosion that Ahsoka seemingly did not. TPM Maul, Rebels Ahsoka, and ROTS Kenobi are all equals dueling wise, but Rebels Ahsoka is slightly ahead in the force. And Frankly, he is in rebels as well, as indicated by his duel with Ahsoka. With that being said though, do you not see 2 TPM Maul+ level fighters beating Vader? Click the button below to start this article in quick view. Even him getting his arm cut off would only be a relatively painless strike. That's far from a bad showing. She is diarmed and vulnerable right before the force pull..he could have choked the life out of her there. Whether or not her pursuit of the Chiss tactician has anything to do with … A one-stop shop for all things video games. (I love the saber forms and think it's one of the best things about the old canon). Ahsoka Tano vs Darth Vader: Could Anakin Skywalker's Padawan Defeat Him? Thanks to Darth we know that the image is from "star wars: i am a sith". Which one of Vader's dueling feats put him so far above Maul or Ahsoka?? Darth Vader wants to overthrow the Emperor and convinces Ahsoka to team up with him to take him out when they reunite in Rebels. There’s not a single scene in canon that shows Vader abusing the force on an opponent that is near Ahsoka level unless he first breaks his or hers defenses. wrong again, he fought her in a duel, and as soon he tried to use force she was one-shotted, how can you say that knocking somone out with a single force push is not one shot? Ahsoka would not approach Vader with love -- nor did she. He could have force pushed her before their lightsabers even met, but that would have little effect on her as active force wall was at it’s strongest then, and she is not drastically beneath him. Vader is perhaps Maul's superior. If this is Rebels Vader, the team thrashes. Naturally, all this paints a very bleak picture for Ahsoka. Maul is a non-Factor to Vader, ahsoka is fodder we seen how badly Vader destroyed her. Ahsoka had a great showing when she caught him off guard, but ultimately, she was driven back almost 100 yards in about a minute, was clearly draining her force reserves just to keep from getting chopped down, and then was one shot out of the battle by a force push. Nope, it's prime Vader. And it's because Rebels Ahsoka already gave Vader a decent fight. Seems pretty biased.". His duel with Ben Kenobi and Ahsoka (both considered near equals of Maul) support that. TPM Maul, Rebels Ahsoka, and ROTS Kenobi are all equals dueling wise, but Rebels Ahsoka is slightly ahead in the force.". It could be possible for Ahsoka to use the force to short circuit or destroy Vader's life support systems. I was saying Maul and Ahsoka are near equals, which they are as shown by their duel. Saying he didn’t because ”he didn’t want to” is just headcanon. The lightsaber didn’t absorb it. 0 ... Darth Vader(ROTS, at least) Darth … Dooku retreats because he knew he would eventually lose to Yoda. Never twisted your words for a second, just pointed out how you blatantly disregarded Ahsoka was caught off guard while you acknowledged Vader was. Your trying to prove me wrong more than yourself right. It reflected it. The two engaged in a titanic struggle of Force powers, neither besting the other. I already explained why she didn't have a good showing. However, it does keep him alive, which means, should Ahsoka inflict damage to the mechanics keeping Vader standing upright, the Sith Lord would fall. We’ve been through this before. Here you go, he is lightyears above both Maul and Dooku, Those are not feats that is scaling, in terms of quantifiable TK feats Vader is lightyears above Maul, Maul is fodder to him, Vader has effortlessly moved and closed and held closed skycaper seized 100 000 ton mouth of the gigantic beast with single casual hand gesture in canon comics, protected himself from nuke level exsplosion in rebels with a force shield, Maul does not compare at all, Now for that fight, Filoni wanks Ashok he siad that only Vader or Palpatine can mach her, so he considers rebels Ashoka far above Maul, not comperable and Vader one-shotted her with single TK attack, so he stomped her with force, As for old Ben, he never tried to use force agisnt him so that does not count, I said one shot with force, Vader one-shotted Ashoka with force push, she was knocked out for a minute, before that their duel that went for a minute was sabers, as soon he tried to use force she was one-shotted, The wrong Maul was amped by nexus and Ashoka was weakend by it, Filoni said by the time of rebels only Vader and Palpatine can fight her, so that is wrong, Vader will one-shot Maul with flick as he did to Cal and stomp Ashoka. Based on statements and context, we can comfortably place Ahsoka in the same league, with Morals on. I don’t think Vader is that much more powerful than Maul and Ahsoka. Saved by Jamie Dozier. She'd never be able to hit Vader where it counts. Morals off, I think Ahsoka does much better here, and could go either way, with a slight preference for Vader. So if the fight were to take place in space, Vader would win. R3: Team, but Vader gives them a difficult fight. Also, Vader was also amped by the dark side nexus, which makes Ahsoka’s duel with him all the more impressive. Ahsoka's power pales in comparison to Yoda's or Palpatine's, meaning she'd have to land a lucky strike with the lightsaber to kill Vader. He saw an opening and was able to force push her off of a cliff. That’s a image. The point I’m trying to get across is that one can break said opponents force defenses through lightsaber dueling. If he was truly "lightyears" above them, whatever that means, he would have stomped Ahsoka. you will receive item pictured. I’m not at all saying that one has to beat an opponent in lightsaber dueling to use the force on them. Not this time. @void_reborn: the saber forms aren't canon, right? Loves different varieties of coffee. Vader broke Ahsoka’s active defenses through lightsaber dueling. 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And Vader doesn't have feats required stomp either one of them in the force, let alone both of them. Vader definitely wins the bonus round. No, you cannot, force defenses are passive ones, always-on, they have nothing to with saber. It’s active force defenses that Jedi and Sith begin a duel with. The duel is relatively even until Vader's mask is cracked. This is why Windu and Kenobi both use it to reflect lightning. It’s through dueling and other force abilities that these defenses can be broken. I said Vader definitely wins with morals off. That is contradicted by recent Galaxy of adventures Disney canon video, this quite, Palpatien casually crub stomping Dooku, it has to much for it to be taken seriously, Unfortunately for you good old George sold SW to Disney, so now what he says or said means nothing, its noncanon. Where did you find the image was my question. The two Jedi had years of experience under their belt, fighting alongside one another during the Clone Wars and defeating countless adversaries along the way. He did not one-shot nor stomp. He never did abuse the force with Ben because he couldn’t break Ben’s defenses. Absolutely ridiculous and I'm not been gonna debate further than this. Equinox vs. One weapon at Vader's disposal is his strength with the Force, which is further amplified by his rage. The point I’m trying to get across is that one can break said opponents force defenses through lightsaber dueling. As i explaeind to you you do not need to break saber defense to use force, sabers have nothing to do with force and Vader feats as well as this confirmation proves that he can do that easily, No, since as i explained to you saber defenses have nothing to do with the force, can't you understand that? Redeemed - His Mother. Star Wars: The Clone Wars added another emotional layer to Ahsoka Tano and Darth Vader's duel from Star Wars Rebels. All three as of when they were on Malachor. Ahsoka's stamina isn't that good as seen in her Maul fight in TCW. Active is when one is on guard, focused, and ready. After all, even after Luke cut Vader's arm off, he still managed to defeat Palpatine, the strongest force user in the galaxy at that point. Season 7, Episode 10. Round 3: Team should be able to pull off the win with mid-high difficulty. We know she is inferior Vader, but giving her Maul, who himself is superior to Ahsoka, gives them the majority. One cannot ragdoll or abuse an opponent in the force unless one first breaks their defenses. You can't buy your own item. Description: Ahsoka Tano x Darth Vader is part of Movies Collection and its available for Desktop Laptop PC and Mobile Screen. He could have force pushed her before their lightsabers even met, but that would have little effect on her as active force wall was at it’s strongest then, and she is not drastically beneath him. The fight ends in a manner that, ultimately, left something to be desired from the battle of two heavyweights. if they are close sure they will not use force instantly but here they are not close. The only mention was of form 4 in a one off statement by rebels. Vader is not one shotting unless he first breaks their defenses (which wouldn’t even be a “one shot” at that point). They're canon. Maul is fodder, it was confirmed by canon soruce that Vader is lightyears above him in force and his feats show that as well, Vader can break his neck with a flick and then stomp Ashoka, he already one-shotted her in Rebels with single force push. "One of the things that [Geoge Lucas] and I sat down and had fairly lengthy discussions about was Ahsoka and Darth Vader. This fan made Death Battle features Ahsoka Tano and Galen Marek, both from the Star Wars series. But for the audience it's nice for them to go through this process of throwing everything around. As i explaeind to you you do not need to break saber defense to use force, sabers have nothing to do with force and Vader feats as well as this confirmation proves that he can do that easilyNo, since as i explained to you saber defenses have nothing to do with the force, can't you understand that? That’s not a one-shot. How does morals off change anything with Vader or Maul? Active force defenses are much stronger than passive. He isn’t THAT much more powerful than them as shown by his duel with Ahsoka. Lifelong lover of comics, anime, and weird films. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Vs Avengers: Endgame - Which Ended Better? Star Wars Rebels pitted Darth Vader against his former apprentice, Ahsoka Tano. This means that if Vader were to land one killing stroke, the fight would ultimately be over almost as quickly as it began. We both know that didn’t happen. #2 Rebels Ahsoka isn't above ROTS Obi Wan level. "I agree with this completely. I appreciate the effort but I'm done here. Vader broke Ahsoka’s defenses. The lightsaber is an extension of the Jedi or Sith’s active force wall. Close. Vader stomps round 2 and 3, he one-shots them, @theoverdaddy: @eslay03:How can they win in R3? Ahsoka alone was able to give Vader a good fight. She was not tired, he casually knocked her out with single force push, as soon as he tried to use force she was fodderized. Bonus: Moral are Off, how does the outcome change? Maul will still be dark side amped. Written for The Mary Sue, ScreenRant, The Anime Feminist, The Gamer, and Vocal. By your rational, Kenobi should be instantly one shotted by said lightning because he is below Dooku in the force. However, this pales in comparison to some of Vader's raw strength with the Force, as well as his other brutal methods. These quotes clearly state that Dooku and Yoda were near equals and what we saw on screen also agrees with that. Ahsoka Tano vs Darth Vader Add to Favorites Click to zoom TheArtOfLilyK 61 sales 61 sales | 5 out of 5 stars. If this isn't biased, I don't know what is. He's stomping fodder tier combatants, not that impressive. "Vader has no feat putting him lightyears above either of them. I am absolutely not saying that randomly having a lightsaber suddenly makes one able to withstand force abilities. We’ve been through this before. And a series of huge slashes and quick manoeuvers?… Ahsoka Tano VS Darth Vader - Star Wars Rebels Season 2 Finale Twilight of the Apprentice Changed my mind. Discover (and save!) Saber wise? Vader is not one-shotting either here, and he never did anything like that in Rebels. Vader being bloodlusted changes nothing, same for Maul. @eredin12: Eredin, can you give me the source for that Vader image? Actually, that is exactly how canon works. This puts him in a state of distress and pain, which is what fuels Vader's abilities. One cannot ragdoll or abuse an opponent in the force unless one first breaks their defenses. Rewatch the scene. Vader is not one shotting unless he first breaks their defenses (which wouldn’t even be a “one shot” at that point). Provide the scans/canon explanation of each of the 7 saber forms, who uses them, etc. May 31, 2016 - Ahsoka vs. Darth Vader I won't leave you. Introduced as the Jedi Padawan of Anakin Skywalker, who later becomes Sith Lord Darth Vader, she is a protagonist of the 2008 animated film Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the subsequent television series.Ahsoka reappears in Star Wars Rebels, where she uses the codename Fulcrum, and as a voiceover cameo in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. Meanwhile, Vader stomped all of the inquisitors at once. This is why we never see two opponents instantly begin to ragdoll the other in a fight (at least if they aren’t drastically apart in terms of overall power). The only issue with that is that unless the opponent is severely less powerful those force abilities will rarely break his or hers active defenses. Tough for me to see Vader winning this tbh. Vader said "so many Jedi wood have been saved if you never left" Ahsoka said "there lost" Vader said "no your lost you abandoned Obi wan Anakin and people how look up to you" Ahsoka said "shut up" Vader said "just like me" Ahsoka said "screw you". But in legitimate "evidenced based" debates? Ahsoka didn't give him decent fight. I don't know if Ahsoka's showing is overstated because of the flash, or what. The only mention was of form 4 in a one off statement by rebels. … Ahsoka is a talented fighter. Source : Lightsabers: A Guide to the Weapons of the Force. I mean really? Tie 0% . He is just slightly above Dooku and solidly better than Maul. Definitely not again. Even when serving the Empire, Vader essentially dismantled the entire Rebel attack force by himself during the Battle of Yavin. Can they take him? @void_reborn: He did not wear her down, she showed no sign of being tired and Vader one-shotted her with force first time he tried to use it, while her force push did nothing to him, that is how close in force they are, @void_reborn: He did not wear her down, she showed no sign of being tired and Vader one-shotted her still with force first time he tried to use, while her force push did nothing to him, that is how close in force they are. Matt Martin, a member of the story group, said that whenever legends doesn't contradict canon, it can be considered canon as well. Could the apprentice beat the master in combat? Ahsoka damaged Vader's mask, but she didn't get another chance to strike back. So let's break it down: Can Darth Vader beat Ahsoka in a fair fight, or is it the apprentice that will have an upper hand on her master? Round 1: Ahsoka and Maul should be able to take it with mid-high difficulty. Ahsoka and Maul are near equals (as shown by their duel which took place mostly offscreen) at the point of Rebels, and considering how well Ahsoka did against Vader, Maul and Ahsoka should take it in a difficult fight. ", Animation Director Rob Coleman's comment that Lucas wanted "an amazing clash between two ultimate masters of opposite sides of the Force," Pablo Hidalgo who says "The two Force warriors attempted to defeat each other with displays of telekinesis and other Force abilities, but they were too evenly matched" in Lightsabers 2010 & 2018, and Genndy Tartakovsky, who worked with George on the 2003 Clone Wars series, saying "Dooku is almost as powerful as Yoda himself.". In Clone Wars season 7, episode 9, "Old Friends Not Forgotten", the master and his apprentice reunite after months of her self-imposed exile. Also, the term “lightyears” is absolutely an exaggeration. Your socratic attempts at twisting my words to prove me wrong aren't pulling the wool over my eyes. Darth Vader remains one of the best pilots in all of Star Wars. I sincerely have no clue what you are talking about. However, her accomplishments as a pilot are dwarfed by Anakin's. Vader is actually confirmed to be in his prime during Rebels via Pablo Hidalgo, another member of the Story Group. They also have form advantages over him via their maneuverability. Darth Vader and Ahsoka Tano (Rebels) vs Palpatine. That’s not a source. Wiki Points. Vader wins Rounds 2 and loses Round 1. Vader is not one-shotting either here, and he never did anything like that in Rebels. R1: Team overwhelms. original owner, … I said using a children's source book (if you were using it) that claimed Dooku and Maul are below Vader by lightyears is ridiculous. I am not saying she was tired. If he was truly "lightyears" above them, whatever that means, he would have stomped Ahsoka. If it exists, I'd love to see it. I don't think saber forms matter anymore in canon. I’ve discussed this with you before on another topic. Earned my MFA from Fairleigh Dickinson University. Seems pretty biased. Easily. Let's use this as a point of comparison: Obi-Wan managed to defeat Darth Maul as an old man, while Ahsoka fought evenly with the former sith, and, ultimately, couldn't defeat him. As far as I know, there's no Disney/Marvel canon content providing the 7 forms and their advantages/disadvantages. The only issue with that is that unless the opponent is severely less powerful those force abilities will rarely break his or hers active defenses. 3) 50/50 due to Ashoka's likely moral conflict hoping to injure Vader & return Anakin to the light. This is why almost every single fight in SW results in a lightsaber duel. 518. Maybe a little bit more in the teams favor. "Nope, it's prime Vader. R1: Team should win. The sad truth of both situations was that Ahsoka never had the opportunity to reconcile with either of them. A talented young Togruta who was originally under the care of Jedi Master Plo Koon, she was later instructed by Jedi Grand Master Yoda to seek Skywalker's tutelage. Add to cart Whoa! The Duel. Vader all rounds. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. His words have value. He was on guard, energized, and ready. He force pushed Ahsoka after wearing her down by his strength and dueling. Follow 328. So you acknowledge that Ahsoka caught Vader off guard, but disregard that Vader caught Ahsoka off guard with the force push? 4) Team 6.5/10. As painful as Anakin's transformation into Darth Vader was for Ahsoka, knowing that a cherished mentor like Plo Koon stopped believing in her so easily must have felt worse. 1 Depicts a Vibrant Past... and an Already-Dated Future? He isn’t THAT much more powerful than them as shown by his duel with Ahsoka. No, force wise? And it's because Rebels Ahsoka already gave Vader a decent fight. We see this in the fight with Ahsoka during Rebels. Fight takes place at the top of the Malachor Sith Temple, where Ahsoka fought Vader. Through lightsaber dueling one can wear down his opponent. 2) Vader asserts his dominance with mid-high diff. I have defended my opinions. R4: More or less the same as R3. Ahsoka and Maul don't even come close to any of his saber combat feats in comics. Star Wars: The Clone Wars marketing continues to hype up the one-on-one duel between Ahsoka and Darth Maul, but even before the show makes its return, we already know who emerges as the winner in the fight. RELATED: The Rise Of Skywalker Makes It Clear Star Wars NEEDS Rian Johnson. After the first cut, and we return to Vader driving her back, Ahsoka locks blades and stops Vader's forward progress which is a good feat. The fight takes place on Malachor. . I was going to challenge each of your points in greater detail. card is numbered 4/99. He saw an opening and was able to force push her off of a cliff. The story of Anakin Skywalker and his padawan Ahsoka Tano is one the fans fell in love with over the course of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. The Mandalorian promotional artwork and replaced with Ahsoka Tano and Darth Vader and Tano! And Yoda were near equals, which they are both beneath him individually, but disregard that Vader?! 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They were near equals. Therefore, Maul and Ahsoka are still near equals. Download Ahsoka Tano x Darth Vader Wallpaper for free in different resolution ( HD Widescreen 4K 5K 8K Ultra HD ), Wallpaper support different devices like Desktop PC or Laptop, Mobile and tablet. Where did I even indicate bias? Sep 1, 2015 - This Pin was discovered by Amber Ellis. Given what she revealed on the Disney+ show, she's currently hunting down Grand Admiral Thrawn who was last seen with Ezra as their ship jumped to hyperspace at the end of Star Wars Rebels. Lucasfilm apparently requested that Cara Dune be removed from a piece of The Mandalorian promotional artwork and replaced with Ahsoka Tano. KEEP READING: Star Wars Rebels Creator Hints [SPOILER] Is Alive in Rise of Skywalker. In all honesty, the one field where Vader holds an undeniable advantage is the sky. Darth Vader and Ahsoka Tano fought once, with the results being inconclusive. Asadora! She was hopelessly outclassed by Vader in her duel with him both skillfully, and physically. Absolutely ridiculous and I'm not been gonna debate further than this. ", I already explained why she didn't have a good showing. As i addressed no he did not, saber has nothing to do with force defenses and he indeed is much above them especially Maul, Maul is fodderto him. I agree with this completely. The reason for this, though, is because Luke was the first person in years to touch Vader's heart, which weakened his connection to the Dark Side. @void_reborn inspired me to do this battle. R1: Vader eventually edges the W. Maul apparently didnt improve his style following his defeat in TCW, and his only relevant Rebels feats are temporarily stalemating 3 Inquisitors, a battle he might have been able to win, but is unclear. RELATED: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Vs Avengers: Endgame - Which Ended Better? Its not, Maul best quantifiable TK feat is thousands of times bellow Vaders, Dooku is not much better eiather, Vader stomps them by feats, the only way for Dooku to be close is scaling to Yoda, Sorry but i do not like speculations she showed no signs of being tired that is why i cannot assume that she was, I know but he should also win round 3 and 2, Maul is fodder, so its basically Vader vs Ashoka and he low difs. After looking through your activity feed, and the fact that you believe Vader can beat, or even have a chance at beating Anakin+Windu, it's quite clear you have a raging erection for Lord Vader. Whatever opinion/logic you are projecting onto me and lol'ing at is all on you. He was tasked with hunting down surviving Jedi and rebel cells. He is above Maul, but the distance isn’t vast. I am absolutely not saying that randomly having a lightsaber suddenly makes one able to withstand force abilities. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. This is why we never see two opponents instantly begin to ragdoll the other in a fight (at least if they aren’t drastically apart in terms of overall power). Wrong, active force defenses is opponent using force to block force attack like Kenobi and Anakin did in ROTS, but Maul cannot do that, he is fodder to Vader in force, that is why saber is irrelevant here, that is why that will not save him but saber has nothing to do with force defenses, Mace used saber itself, its absorbing property to absorb lightning, It’s through dueling and other force abilities that these defenses can be broken. 1) Team takes the win with difficulty and likely injury. There was no parity between them. The Dark Lord failed to defeat Obi-Wan after an epic duel, but Kenobi stands as one of the greatest Jedi of all time. Don't worry, I'll point them out. In fact, if anything, that duel showed Vader's strength, and adaptability. Awesome. @eslay03: Vader defeated Kenobi easly in ANH acording to "from a certain point of view". Vader oneshots Maul and then beats Ahsoka again. Vader being light years above them is honestly an exaggeration based on feats and showings. Canon Vader is lightyears ahead of these two in sabers. Undeniably, Vader's abilities at a lightsaber are surpassed by few. Growing older only made him one of the Clone War's greatest pilots around. Maul gets Forced Choked and ragdolled around along with ahsoka. Team every round considering Ahsoka gave Vader a mid diff fight and Rebels Maul>Rebels Ahsoka via starwars.com. Rise of Skywalker Cast Believes It's Time for a Break From Star Wars, The Rise Of Skywalker Makes It Clear Star Wars NEEDS Rian Johnson. 9 9. Battle. After all, consider this: after being enraged, Vader not only survives Ahsoka without taking another hit, but he also made it out of a massive explosion that Ahsoka seemingly did not. TPM Maul, Rebels Ahsoka, and ROTS Kenobi are all equals dueling wise, but Rebels Ahsoka is slightly ahead in the force. And Frankly, he is in rebels as well, as indicated by his duel with Ahsoka. With that being said though, do you not see 2 TPM Maul+ level fighters beating Vader? Click the button below to start this article in quick view. Even him getting his arm cut off would only be a relatively painless strike. That's far from a bad showing. She is diarmed and vulnerable right before the force pull..he could have choked the life out of her there. Whether or not her pursuit of the Chiss tactician has anything to do with … A one-stop shop for all things video games. (I love the saber forms and think it's one of the best things about the old canon). Ahsoka Tano vs Darth Vader: Could Anakin Skywalker's Padawan Defeat Him? Thanks to Darth we know that the image is from "star wars: i am a sith". Which one of Vader's dueling feats put him so far above Maul or Ahsoka?? Darth Vader wants to overthrow the Emperor and convinces Ahsoka to team up with him to take him out when they reunite in Rebels. There’s not a single scene in canon that shows Vader abusing the force on an opponent that is near Ahsoka level unless he first breaks his or hers defenses. wrong again, he fought her in a duel, and as soon he tried to use force she was one-shotted, how can you say that knocking somone out with a single force push is not one shot? Ahsoka would not approach Vader with love -- nor did she. He could have force pushed her before their lightsabers even met, but that would have little effect on her as active force wall was at it’s strongest then, and she is not drastically beneath him. Vader is perhaps Maul's superior. If this is Rebels Vader, the team thrashes. Naturally, all this paints a very bleak picture for Ahsoka. Maul is a non-Factor to Vader, ahsoka is fodder we seen how badly Vader destroyed her. Ahsoka had a great showing when she caught him off guard, but ultimately, she was driven back almost 100 yards in about a minute, was clearly draining her force reserves just to keep from getting chopped down, and then was one shot out of the battle by a force push. Nope, it's prime Vader. And it's because Rebels Ahsoka already gave Vader a decent fight. Seems pretty biased.". His duel with Ben Kenobi and Ahsoka (both considered near equals of Maul) support that. TPM Maul, Rebels Ahsoka, and ROTS Kenobi are all equals dueling wise, but Rebels Ahsoka is slightly ahead in the force.". It could be possible for Ahsoka to use the force to short circuit or destroy Vader's life support systems. I was saying Maul and Ahsoka are near equals, which they are as shown by their duel. Saying he didn’t because ”he didn’t want to” is just headcanon. The lightsaber didn’t absorb it. 0 ... Darth Vader(ROTS, at least) Darth … Dooku retreats because he knew he would eventually lose to Yoda. Never twisted your words for a second, just pointed out how you blatantly disregarded Ahsoka was caught off guard while you acknowledged Vader was. Your trying to prove me wrong more than yourself right. It reflected it. The two engaged in a titanic struggle of Force powers, neither besting the other. I already explained why she didn't have a good showing. However, it does keep him alive, which means, should Ahsoka inflict damage to the mechanics keeping Vader standing upright, the Sith Lord would fall. We’ve been through this before. Here you go, he is lightyears above both Maul and Dooku, Those are not feats that is scaling, in terms of quantifiable TK feats Vader is lightyears above Maul, Maul is fodder to him, Vader has effortlessly moved and closed and held closed skycaper seized 100 000 ton mouth of the gigantic beast with single casual hand gesture in canon comics, protected himself from nuke level exsplosion in rebels with a force shield, Maul does not compare at all, Now for that fight, Filoni wanks Ashok he siad that only Vader or Palpatine can mach her, so he considers rebels Ashoka far above Maul, not comperable and Vader one-shotted her with single TK attack, so he stomped her with force, As for old Ben, he never tried to use force agisnt him so that does not count, I said one shot with force, Vader one-shotted Ashoka with force push, she was knocked out for a minute, before that their duel that went for a minute was sabers, as soon he tried to use force she was one-shotted, The wrong Maul was amped by nexus and Ashoka was weakend by it, Filoni said by the time of rebels only Vader and Palpatine can fight her, so that is wrong, Vader will one-shot Maul with flick as he did to Cal and stomp Ashoka. Based on statements and context, we can comfortably place Ahsoka in the same league, with Morals on. I don’t think Vader is that much more powerful than Maul and Ahsoka. Saved by Jamie Dozier. She'd never be able to hit Vader where it counts. Morals off, I think Ahsoka does much better here, and could go either way, with a slight preference for Vader. So if the fight were to take place in space, Vader would win. R3: Team, but Vader gives them a difficult fight. Also, Vader was also amped by the dark side nexus, which makes Ahsoka’s duel with him all the more impressive. Ahsoka's power pales in comparison to Yoda's or Palpatine's, meaning she'd have to land a lucky strike with the lightsaber to kill Vader. He saw an opening and was able to force push her off of a cliff. That’s a image. The point I’m trying to get across is that one can break said opponents force defenses through lightsaber dueling. If he was truly "lightyears" above them, whatever that means, he would have stomped Ahsoka. you will receive item pictured. I’m not at all saying that one has to beat an opponent in lightsaber dueling to use the force on them. Not this time. @void_reborn: the saber forms aren't canon, right? Loves different varieties of coffee. Vader broke Ahsoka’s active defenses through lightsaber dueling. 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And Vader doesn't have feats required stomp either one of them in the force, let alone both of them. Vader definitely wins the bonus round. No, you cannot, force defenses are passive ones, always-on, they have nothing to with saber. It’s active force defenses that Jedi and Sith begin a duel with. The duel is relatively even until Vader's mask is cracked. This is why Windu and Kenobi both use it to reflect lightning. It’s through dueling and other force abilities that these defenses can be broken. I said Vader definitely wins with morals off. That is contradicted by recent Galaxy of adventures Disney canon video, this quite, Palpatien casually crub stomping Dooku, it has to much for it to be taken seriously, Unfortunately for you good old George sold SW to Disney, so now what he says or said means nothing, its noncanon. Where did you find the image was my question. The two Jedi had years of experience under their belt, fighting alongside one another during the Clone Wars and defeating countless adversaries along the way. He did not one-shot nor stomp. He never did abuse the force with Ben because he couldn’t break Ben’s defenses. Absolutely ridiculous and I'm not been gonna debate further than this. Equinox vs. One weapon at Vader's disposal is his strength with the Force, which is further amplified by his rage. The point I’m trying to get across is that one can break said opponents force defenses through lightsaber dueling. As i explaeind to you you do not need to break saber defense to use force, sabers have nothing to do with force and Vader feats as well as this confirmation proves that he can do that easily, No, since as i explained to you saber defenses have nothing to do with the force, can't you understand that? Redeemed - His Mother. Star Wars: The Clone Wars added another emotional layer to Ahsoka Tano and Darth Vader's duel from Star Wars Rebels. All three as of when they were on Malachor. Ahsoka's stamina isn't that good as seen in her Maul fight in TCW. Active is when one is on guard, focused, and ready. After all, even after Luke cut Vader's arm off, he still managed to defeat Palpatine, the strongest force user in the galaxy at that point. Season 7, Episode 10. Round 3: Team should be able to pull off the win with mid-high difficulty. We know she is inferior Vader, but giving her Maul, who himself is superior to Ahsoka, gives them the majority. One cannot ragdoll or abuse an opponent in the force unless one first breaks their defenses. You can't buy your own item. Description: Ahsoka Tano x Darth Vader is part of Movies Collection and its available for Desktop Laptop PC and Mobile Screen. He could have force pushed her before their lightsabers even met, but that would have little effect on her as active force wall was at it’s strongest then, and she is not drastically beneath him. The fight ends in a manner that, ultimately, left something to be desired from the battle of two heavyweights. if they are close sure they will not use force instantly but here they are not close. The only mention was of form 4 in a one off statement by rebels. Vader is not one shotting unless he first breaks their defenses (which wouldn’t even be a “one shot” at that point). They're canon. Maul is fodder, it was confirmed by canon soruce that Vader is lightyears above him in force and his feats show that as well, Vader can break his neck with a flick and then stomp Ashoka, he already one-shotted her in Rebels with single force push. "One of the things that [Geoge Lucas] and I sat down and had fairly lengthy discussions about was Ahsoka and Darth Vader. This fan made Death Battle features Ahsoka Tano and Galen Marek, both from the Star Wars series. But for the audience it's nice for them to go through this process of throwing everything around. As i explaeind to you you do not need to break saber defense to use force, sabers have nothing to do with force and Vader feats as well as this confirmation proves that he can do that easilyNo, since as i explained to you saber defenses have nothing to do with the force, can't you understand that? That’s not a one-shot. How does morals off change anything with Vader or Maul? Active force defenses are much stronger than passive. He isn’t THAT much more powerful than them as shown by his duel with Ahsoka. Lifelong lover of comics, anime, and weird films. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Vs Avengers: Endgame - Which Ended Better? Star Wars Rebels pitted Darth Vader against his former apprentice, Ahsoka Tano. This means that if Vader were to land one killing stroke, the fight would ultimately be over almost as quickly as it began. We both know that didn’t happen. #2 Rebels Ahsoka isn't above ROTS Obi Wan level. "I agree with this completely. I appreciate the effort but I'm done here. Vader broke Ahsoka’s defenses. The lightsaber is an extension of the Jedi or Sith’s active force wall. Close. Vader stomps round 2 and 3, he one-shots them, @theoverdaddy: @eslay03:How can they win in R3? Ahsoka alone was able to give Vader a good fight. She was not tired, he casually knocked her out with single force push, as soon as he tried to use force she was fodderized. Bonus: Moral are Off, how does the outcome change? Maul will still be dark side amped. Written for The Mary Sue, ScreenRant, The Anime Feminist, The Gamer, and Vocal. By your rational, Kenobi should be instantly one shotted by said lightning because he is below Dooku in the force. However, this pales in comparison to some of Vader's raw strength with the Force, as well as his other brutal methods. These quotes clearly state that Dooku and Yoda were near equals and what we saw on screen also agrees with that. Ahsoka Tano vs Darth Vader Add to Favorites Click to zoom TheArtOfLilyK 61 sales 61 sales | 5 out of 5 stars. If this isn't biased, I don't know what is. He's stomping fodder tier combatants, not that impressive. "Vader has no feat putting him lightyears above either of them. I am absolutely not saying that randomly having a lightsaber suddenly makes one able to withstand force abilities. We’ve been through this before. And a series of huge slashes and quick manoeuvers?… Ahsoka Tano VS Darth Vader - Star Wars Rebels Season 2 Finale Twilight of the Apprentice Changed my mind. Discover (and save!) Saber wise? Vader is not one-shotting either here, and he never did anything like that in Rebels. Vader being bloodlusted changes nothing, same for Maul. @eredin12: Eredin, can you give me the source for that Vader image? Actually, that is exactly how canon works. This puts him in a state of distress and pain, which is what fuels Vader's abilities. One cannot ragdoll or abuse an opponent in the force unless one first breaks their defenses. Rewatch the scene. Vader is not one shotting unless he first breaks their defenses (which wouldn’t even be a “one shot” at that point). Provide the scans/canon explanation of each of the 7 saber forms, who uses them, etc. May 31, 2016 - Ahsoka vs. Darth Vader I won't leave you. Introduced as the Jedi Padawan of Anakin Skywalker, who later becomes Sith Lord Darth Vader, she is a protagonist of the 2008 animated film Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the subsequent television series.Ahsoka reappears in Star Wars Rebels, where she uses the codename Fulcrum, and as a voiceover cameo in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. Meanwhile, Vader stomped all of the inquisitors at once. This is why we never see two opponents instantly begin to ragdoll the other in a fight (at least if they aren’t drastically apart in terms of overall power). The only issue with that is that unless the opponent is severely less powerful those force abilities will rarely break his or hers active defenses. Tough for me to see Vader winning this tbh. Vader said "so many Jedi wood have been saved if you never left" Ahsoka said "there lost" Vader said "no your lost you abandoned Obi wan Anakin and people how look up to you" Ahsoka said "shut up" Vader said "just like me" Ahsoka said "screw you". But in legitimate "evidenced based" debates? Ahsoka didn't give him decent fight. I don't know if Ahsoka's showing is overstated because of the flash, or what. The only mention was of form 4 in a one off statement by rebels. … Ahsoka is a talented fighter. Source : Lightsabers: A Guide to the Weapons of the Force. I mean really? Tie 0% . He is just slightly above Dooku and solidly better than Maul. Definitely not again. Even when serving the Empire, Vader essentially dismantled the entire Rebel attack force by himself during the Battle of Yavin. Can they take him? @void_reborn: He did not wear her down, she showed no sign of being tired and Vader one-shotted her with force first time he tried to use it, while her force push did nothing to him, that is how close in force they are, @void_reborn: He did not wear her down, she showed no sign of being tired and Vader one-shotted her still with force first time he tried to use, while her force push did nothing to him, that is how close in force they are. Matt Martin, a member of the story group, said that whenever legends doesn't contradict canon, it can be considered canon as well. Could the apprentice beat the master in combat? Ahsoka damaged Vader's mask, but she didn't get another chance to strike back. So let's break it down: Can Darth Vader beat Ahsoka in a fair fight, or is it the apprentice that will have an upper hand on her master? Round 1: Ahsoka and Maul should be able to take it with mid-high difficulty. Ahsoka and Maul are near equals (as shown by their duel which took place mostly offscreen) at the point of Rebels, and considering how well Ahsoka did against Vader, Maul and Ahsoka should take it in a difficult fight. ", Animation Director Rob Coleman's comment that Lucas wanted "an amazing clash between two ultimate masters of opposite sides of the Force," Pablo Hidalgo who says "The two Force warriors attempted to defeat each other with displays of telekinesis and other Force abilities, but they were too evenly matched" in Lightsabers 2010 & 2018, and Genndy Tartakovsky, who worked with George on the 2003 Clone Wars series, saying "Dooku is almost as powerful as Yoda himself.". In Clone Wars season 7, episode 9, "Old Friends Not Forgotten", the master and his apprentice reunite after months of her self-imposed exile. Also, the term “lightyears” is absolutely an exaggeration. Your socratic attempts at twisting my words to prove me wrong aren't pulling the wool over my eyes. Darth Vader remains one of the best pilots in all of Star Wars. I sincerely have no clue what you are talking about. However, her accomplishments as a pilot are dwarfed by Anakin's. Vader is actually confirmed to be in his prime during Rebels via Pablo Hidalgo, another member of the Story Group. They also have form advantages over him via their maneuverability. Darth Vader and Ahsoka Tano (Rebels) vs Palpatine. That’s not a source. Wiki Points. Vader wins Rounds 2 and loses Round 1. Vader is not one-shotting either here, and he never did anything like that in Rebels. R1: Team overwhelms. original owner, … I said using a children's source book (if you were using it) that claimed Dooku and Maul are below Vader by lightyears is ridiculous. I am not saying she was tired. If he was truly "lightyears" above them, whatever that means, he would have stomped Ahsoka. If it exists, I'd love to see it. I don't think saber forms matter anymore in canon. I’ve discussed this with you before on another topic. Earned my MFA from Fairleigh Dickinson University. Seems pretty biased. Easily. Let's use this as a point of comparison: Obi-Wan managed to defeat Darth Maul as an old man, while Ahsoka fought evenly with the former sith, and, ultimately, couldn't defeat him. As far as I know, there's no Disney/Marvel canon content providing the 7 forms and their advantages/disadvantages. The only issue with that is that unless the opponent is severely less powerful those force abilities will rarely break his or hers active defenses. 3) 50/50 due to Ashoka's likely moral conflict hoping to injure Vader & return Anakin to the light. This is why almost every single fight in SW results in a lightsaber duel. 518. Maybe a little bit more in the teams favor. "Nope, it's prime Vader. R1: Team should win. The sad truth of both situations was that Ahsoka never had the opportunity to reconcile with either of them. A talented young Togruta who was originally under the care of Jedi Master Plo Koon, she was later instructed by Jedi Grand Master Yoda to seek Skywalker's tutelage. Add to cart Whoa! The Duel. Vader all rounds. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. His words have value. He was on guard, energized, and ready. He force pushed Ahsoka after wearing her down by his strength and dueling. Follow 328. So you acknowledge that Ahsoka caught Vader off guard, but disregard that Vader caught Ahsoka off guard with the force push? 4) Team 6.5/10. As painful as Anakin's transformation into Darth Vader was for Ahsoka, knowing that a cherished mentor like Plo Koon stopped believing in her so easily must have felt worse. 1 Depicts a Vibrant Past... and an Already-Dated Future? He isn’t THAT much more powerful than them as shown by his duel with Ahsoka. No, force wise? And it's because Rebels Ahsoka already gave Vader a decent fight. We see this in the fight with Ahsoka during Rebels. Fight takes place at the top of the Malachor Sith Temple, where Ahsoka fought Vader. Through lightsaber dueling one can wear down his opponent. 2) Vader asserts his dominance with mid-high diff. I have defended my opinions. R4: More or less the same as R3. Ahsoka and Maul don't even come close to any of his saber combat feats in comics. Star Wars: The Clone Wars marketing continues to hype up the one-on-one duel between Ahsoka and Darth Maul, but even before the show makes its return, we already know who emerges as the winner in the fight. RELATED: The Rise Of Skywalker Makes It Clear Star Wars NEEDS Rian Johnson. After the first cut, and we return to Vader driving her back, Ahsoka locks blades and stops Vader's forward progress which is a good feat. The fight takes place on Malachor. . I was going to challenge each of your points in greater detail. card is numbered 4/99. He saw an opening and was able to force push her off of a cliff. The story of Anakin Skywalker and his padawan Ahsoka Tano is one the fans fell in love with over the course of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. The Mandalorian promotional artwork and replaced with Ahsoka Tano and Darth Vader and Tano! And Yoda were near equals, which they are both beneath him individually, but disregard that Vader?! 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